tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post7482306603664986547..comments2024-02-05T21:23:49.249-08:00Comments on Lady Eve's Reel Life: FASCISM, NATIONALISM and the BANNED FILMS of MARLENE DIETRICHThe Lady Evehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-47850697950631719122018-02-07T16:34:48.099-08:002018-02-07T16:34:48.099-08:00She was multi-faceted in the extreme, one of the r...She was multi-faceted in the extreme, one of the reasons I admire her. Thanks CW!The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-15347627331489494622018-02-07T16:24:00.270-08:002018-02-07T16:24:00.270-08:00Nazi Germany stands as the nadir of civilization i...Nazi Germany stands as the nadir of civilization in modern history. Hopefully, it's a period that will not be repeated. Thanks, Lê.The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-44521420273079591772018-02-07T16:20:59.909-08:002018-02-07T16:20:59.909-08:00Thanks, Aurora. The primary reason I chose to writ...Thanks, Aurora. The primary reason I chose to write about Dietrich because it was an opportunity to address, if only briefly and lightly, fascism and nationalism (and a few other "isms"), which have lately been on the rise. The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-43161152984284107402017-11-21T15:40:24.746-08:002017-11-21T15:40:24.746-08:00Fantastic piece! I used to enjoy reading about thi...Fantastic piece! I used to enjoy reading about this time of history, but now I often have a bad feeling about the future when I read about Nazi German.<br />Anyway, the ban could easily be predicted, but it for sure was a loss for German filmgoers.<br />Kisses!<br />LeLêhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02419693749682458647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-90683605276015351672017-11-19T12:52:20.442-08:002017-11-19T12:52:20.442-08:00Great topic, Patty. I love the Dietrich timeline i...Great topic, Patty. I love the Dietrich timeline in this important, historic context. You reminded me why I admire her so and taught me a few things about history in the process. Enjoyable, informative read. Thanks!<br /><br />AuroraCitizen Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11596338896095275116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-13843472523971758622017-11-18T18:06:10.881-08:002017-11-18T18:06:10.881-08:00I've blogged about Dietrich several times and ...I've blogged about Dietrich several times and early on I learned that, as you note, Christian, she had tremendous fortitude as well as an incredible determination to work for what she wanted. She wasn't perfect, but there was much to admire - like spurning the Nazis and putting her fame, talent and money into supporting the Allies and helping those at risk get out of Germany.The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-69428769850729818812017-11-18T15:15:45.849-08:002017-11-18T15:15:45.849-08:00Excellent and fascinating post Lady Eve, with grea...Excellent and fascinating post Lady Eve, with great research. La Dietrich had amazing stores of internal fortitude, she was unique even in Hollywood where hard work was common in order to advance. Her career had so many facets of brilliance. Great subject for the blogathon.Christian Esquevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04442827724576856379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-28840059213725468402017-11-17T12:51:30.095-08:002017-11-17T12:51:30.095-08:00Thanks, Amanda. I think Dietrich deserves her fame...Thanks, Amanda. I think Dietrich deserves her fame as much for her work during the war as she does for her films and concert career. Very gutsy, yes.The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-30959918378291980202017-11-17T10:35:24.235-08:002017-11-17T10:35:24.235-08:00Great article. I learned a lot about Dietrich and ...Great article. I learned a lot about Dietrich and the German film industry during the war. Dietrich was such a gutsy lady for refusing to cooperate with the Nazi agenda and she became a legend because of it. Proves the old adage "it's always the right time to do the right thing."Amanda Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08658933742656383125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-18172636995771560412017-11-16T18:24:53.797-08:002017-11-16T18:24:53.797-08:00Yes, film making under the Third Reich is a very i...Yes, film making under the Third Reich is a very interesting story that I might do a future blog post about - if I can find a perspective interesting enough to offset my aversion to delving into anything Nazi-related. Marlene left Germany at just the right time. I can't think of any actor who stayed in Germany then who later had a big career outside the country. The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-23121435202082174102017-11-16T17:14:39.979-08:002017-11-16T17:14:39.979-08:00A thought-provoking piece, Eve. I cannot imagine w...A thought-provoking piece, Eve. I cannot imagine what it was like to be working in the film industry during that time. Talk about censorship! In Patrick Milligan's book on Fritz Lang, he states that under the Hitler regime, every film was a "state film." As for Marlene, would she have been as big a star have she stayed in Germany? I think not. Her Hollywood classics sealed her status as a cinema icon.Rick29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08358116647815569722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-51902596560522684852017-11-16T17:09:25.722-08:002017-11-16T17:09:25.722-08:00Thank you! Yes, Marlene was all of those things. I...Thank you! Yes, Marlene was all of those things. In the end it's amusing that early on she and Garbo were compared. The only things they seem to have actually had in common were that they were both from Europe, both were gorgeous and both became Hollywood movie stars. Well...they were both pretty independent, too.The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-59820741910857173082017-11-16T16:52:04.811-08:002017-11-16T16:52:04.811-08:00I can't imagine having to renounce your countr...I can't imagine having to renounce your country, but perhaps it was they who left her behind.<br /><br />What an amazing and laudable life and a career. There's no one else like Marlene, a true woman of her times.Caftan Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05936895555808823221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-49842025340567087542017-11-16T16:47:02.738-08:002017-11-16T16:47:02.738-08:00Lovely piece of writing, my friend. Marlene was so...Lovely piece of writing, my friend. Marlene was so much - beautiful, maddening, selfish and sometimes petty, but above all she was a stand-up gal. Another Garbo? Ha! Marlene could never be another anyone but herself.FlickChickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17351624749230610755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-78656543428152212152017-11-16T12:38:22.433-08:002017-11-16T12:38:22.433-08:00TY, sir! An interesting detail that often comes up...TY, sir! An interesting detail that often comes up about The Devil is a Woman is that Lionel Atwill is a doppelganger for Sternberg in the film. Another bit of sly humor, I imagine.<br /><br />As I understand it Kurt Gerron had fooled himself into believing he could charm his way out of Nazi Germany. Good luck with that. But, perhaps the saddest part of his story is that he was apparently killed the day before Auschwitz closed down its gas chambers.The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-75098356477395597532017-11-16T12:26:38.362-08:002017-11-16T12:26:38.362-08:00I think she was underrated as an actress, probably...I think she was underrated as an actress, probably because her onscreen persona was so specific and she did generally play to type. "Witness for the Prosecution" went a long way to show that she had talent and range. I've always admired her tenacity and ability to reinvent herself over the decades. But she was proudest of her work during WWII.The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-10604760270450354722017-11-16T11:15:40.087-08:002017-11-16T11:15:40.087-08:00Nicely done piece, your Eveship. I've seen Bun...Nicely done piece, your Eveship. I've seen Bunuel's <b>That Obscure Object of Desire</b> but <b>The Devil is a Woman</b> is a title that has eluded me. The background on Dietrich's anti-Nazism was also riveting stuff, and I found myself sympathetic to Kurt Gerron's plight (boy, did he back the wrong pony).Ivan G Shreve Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04067177808320053382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-4285487958339688032017-11-16T10:17:22.451-08:002017-11-16T10:17:22.451-08:00What a tough and righteous woman Dietrich was, as ...What a tough and righteous woman Dietrich was, as well as a darn good actress. Great historical background. John/24Frameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14719659042858962026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-33253285031271806352017-11-16T07:50:00.306-08:002017-11-16T07:50:00.306-08:00She was one determined woman, as evidence through ...She was one determined woman, as evidence through her whole career, AND she was from a military family. Thanks, Jacqueline!The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8509825018139758536.post-90026936562870394722017-11-16T04:41:32.747-08:002017-11-16T04:41:32.747-08:00A fascinating look at the political intrigue of Di...A fascinating look at the political intrigue of Dietrich's career. Amazing to think how she surfed the turmoil of that period and would not be suckered into the Nazi regime. Great post.Jacqueline T. Lynchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11047941886908178350noreply@blogger.com